
obelix
07-25 08:12 PM
My attorney tells me they don't give employees copies of labor applications.
Is this normal? Would I need it in future - if I switch jobs 180 days after 485 etc?
Is this normal? Would I need it in future - if I switch jobs 180 days after 485 etc?
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ajay_hyd
06-21 02:50 PM
bob, i had no RFE's on my case.

sanjeev.mehra@gmail.com
08-06 12:21 PM
i would say apply for the Eb2. I am on Eb3 right now and i will plan to apply for eb2 after Dec 2008.
I have 3 years degree (15 year education). I am not sure if I can file on EB2.
You have filed on EB3 & planning to file on EB2; could you please share the logic for this & why are you waiting end of 2008, please share the reason, so if needed I can also plan something like you.
Thanks,
Sanjeev
I have 3 years degree (15 year education). I am not sure if I can file on EB2.
You have filed on EB3 & planning to file on EB2; could you please share the logic for this & why are you waiting end of 2008, please share the reason, so if needed I can also plan something like you.
Thanks,
Sanjeev
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Ann Ruben
07-23 11:37 PM
The AC21 determination of whether a new job is in "the same or similar occupation" is made based on a comparison of the new job duties and those set forth on the original labor certification application. Job titles are not controlling. So, you need to have a copy of your original LC application and then compare the job description it contains to the duties of the new position.
USCIS has not provide much guidance on what will or will not qualify as the "same or similar" occupational classification. What little guidance exists comes from a 2005 memo to Service Centers from Michael Aytes:
"Question 3. What is “same or similar” occupational classification for purposes of I-140 portability?
Answer: When making a determination if the new employment is the “same or similar” occupational classification in comparison to the employment in the initial I-140, adjudicators should consider the following factors:
A. Description of the job duties contained in the ETA 750A or the initial I-140 and the job duties of the new employment to determine if they are the “same or similar” occupational classification.
B. The DOT code and/or SOC code assigned to the initial I-140 employment for petitions that have a certified ETA 750A or consider what DOT and/or SOC code is appropriate for the position for an initial I-140 that did not require a certified ETA 750A. Then consider the DOT code and/or SOC code, whichever is appropriate for the new position to make a determination of “same or similar” occupational classification.
C. A substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage. (See Question 5 of this section for further clarification).
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is 'same or similar.'"
The bottom line is that in order to establish that your new position is in the same or similar occupational classification, you must first compare the specific job duties described in the original application for labor certification to the specific job duties of the new position. Nothing from USCIS specifically addresses what percentage of identical job duties would be required, but the closer to 100% the better. Job titles do not matter, job duties do. Next, you need to find the DOT USDOL/Office of Administrative Law Judges Home Page and/or SOC Standard Occupational Classification (SOC) System codes written on your original LC/I-140 and compare the occupational descriptions for those codes to the job duties of your new position. USCIS has never indicated what percentage of identical/similar job duties will suffice in either of the comparisons. Most likely it must be more than 50%, and the closer to 100% the better. Finally, a substantial difference in salary is not determinative, but, in a close case may lead to a denial. To combat this, reference can be made to the DOL's Online Wage Library FLCDataCenter.com current wage survey for the occupation. If the new salary is within the range indicated for the original SOC occupation, you can make a strong argument that the increase is due to the passage of time and not to a change in occupational classification.
USCIS has not provide much guidance on what will or will not qualify as the "same or similar" occupational classification. What little guidance exists comes from a 2005 memo to Service Centers from Michael Aytes:
"Question 3. What is “same or similar” occupational classification for purposes of I-140 portability?
Answer: When making a determination if the new employment is the “same or similar” occupational classification in comparison to the employment in the initial I-140, adjudicators should consider the following factors:
A. Description of the job duties contained in the ETA 750A or the initial I-140 and the job duties of the new employment to determine if they are the “same or similar” occupational classification.
B. The DOT code and/or SOC code assigned to the initial I-140 employment for petitions that have a certified ETA 750A or consider what DOT and/or SOC code is appropriate for the position for an initial I-140 that did not require a certified ETA 750A. Then consider the DOT code and/or SOC code, whichever is appropriate for the new position to make a determination of “same or similar” occupational classification.
C. A substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage. (See Question 5 of this section for further clarification).
Question 5. Should service centers or district officers use a difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification and initial I-140, and the new employment as basis for denial in adjustment portability cases?
Answer: No. As noted above the relevant inquiry is if the new position is the same or similar occupational classification to the alien’s I-140 employment. A difference in the wage offered on the approved labor certification, initial I-140 and the new employment cannot be used as a basis of a denial. However, a substantial discrepancy between the previous and the new wage may be taken into consideration as a factor in determining if the new employment is 'same or similar.'"
The bottom line is that in order to establish that your new position is in the same or similar occupational classification, you must first compare the specific job duties described in the original application for labor certification to the specific job duties of the new position. Nothing from USCIS specifically addresses what percentage of identical job duties would be required, but the closer to 100% the better. Job titles do not matter, job duties do. Next, you need to find the DOT USDOL/Office of Administrative Law Judges Home Page and/or SOC Standard Occupational Classification (SOC) System codes written on your original LC/I-140 and compare the occupational descriptions for those codes to the job duties of your new position. USCIS has never indicated what percentage of identical/similar job duties will suffice in either of the comparisons. Most likely it must be more than 50%, and the closer to 100% the better. Finally, a substantial difference in salary is not determinative, but, in a close case may lead to a denial. To combat this, reference can be made to the DOL's Online Wage Library FLCDataCenter.com current wage survey for the occupation. If the new salary is within the range indicated for the original SOC occupation, you can make a strong argument that the increase is due to the passage of time and not to a change in occupational classification.
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Leo07
10-05 06:32 PM
I'm sure bluekayal's comment was a light hearted and please take it as such. Let's not hijack the thread any further. ( I understand my post is also a hijack:))
bluekayal, Thank you for all your efforts. I can see you are a serious IV member and this is just a off handed remark.
bluekayal, Thank you for all your efforts. I can see you are a serious IV member and this is just a off handed remark.

PDOCT05
11-03 09:28 AM
Did you called USCIS?If not call them and check ask for the status.
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March 6th, 2004, 08:51 AM
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gctex
07-01 11:52 PM
Hi all,
In her passport, my wife's name appears as follows :
Given name = <blank>
Surname = <First name> <Last Name>
Now visa stamping has this :
Given Name = FNU
Surname = <First name> <Last Name>
We are filing I-485 this week and in all the forms we were thinking of giving :
Given Name = <First name>
Surname = <Last Name>
At the same time initiating a Name Split in the passport. Is it advisable to have name split in passport while I-485 is in process?.
There is actually no "name change" per se. Just splitting it and putting it under the correct first and last names. If we file it using FNU, then all her records like DL, SSN, EAD, AP & then GC all will be starting with FNU, which is what we want to avoid.
The ideal way would've been to split the name in passport first and then file it, but we are afraid we could get stuck with retrogression again, if the process gets delayed! :confused:
Please advise !
Thanx
-Gctex
In her passport, my wife's name appears as follows :
Given name = <blank>
Surname = <First name> <Last Name>
Now visa stamping has this :
Given Name = FNU
Surname = <First name> <Last Name>
We are filing I-485 this week and in all the forms we were thinking of giving :
Given Name = <First name>
Surname = <Last Name>
At the same time initiating a Name Split in the passport. Is it advisable to have name split in passport while I-485 is in process?.
There is actually no "name change" per se. Just splitting it and putting it under the correct first and last names. If we file it using FNU, then all her records like DL, SSN, EAD, AP & then GC all will be starting with FNU, which is what we want to avoid.
The ideal way would've been to split the name in passport first and then file it, but we are afraid we could get stuck with retrogression again, if the process gets delayed! :confused:
Please advise !
Thanx
-Gctex
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kart2007
05-25 11:26 PM
Does anyone have recent experience with the Chicago office of Consulate of India for passport renewal. How long does it take? 2 weeks, 3 weeks, more than 3 weeks.
I went there in 2005 for renewing my friends passport. UPS lost his passport and VISA in transit. We were very pleased with the process.
We went to the office in downtown, reached at about 9 am. They were pretty quick to take the required documents and within 1 hr everything was done and we left the place.
Came back at 3:30 pm to collect the passport. Visa was stamped correctly. They made us wait for 1.5 hrs and called our name. We took the passport and drove back.
Let me know if you have any questions.
I went there in 2005 for renewing my friends passport. UPS lost his passport and VISA in transit. We were very pleased with the process.
We went to the office in downtown, reached at about 9 am. They were pretty quick to take the required documents and within 1 hr everything was done and we left the place.
Came back at 3:30 pm to collect the passport. Visa was stamped correctly. They made us wait for 1.5 hrs and called our name. We took the passport and drove back.
Let me know if you have any questions.
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gccube
04-23 11:44 PM
Please see my signature for details. Good luck to all of you.
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simple1
10-05 03:17 PM
Troll alert. This guy is trying taint eb3 by mixing it up with z visa.
he is asking "Do you guys know if there is any restrictions on which employer to work for on Z visa" in a forum where there are no undocumented.
^^
they did that in 1996 and all this EB3 backlog is a result of that Z visa.Mnay of them have GC now.
Do you guys know if there is any restrictions on which employer to work for on Z visa and whether there are any travel restrictions?
he is asking "Do you guys know if there is any restrictions on which employer to work for on Z visa" in a forum where there are no undocumented.
^^
they did that in 1996 and all this EB3 backlog is a result of that Z visa.Mnay of them have GC now.
Do you guys know if there is any restrictions on which employer to work for on Z visa and whether there are any travel restrictions?
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katneni2
08-03 12:37 PM
Thank you very much Karthik.Your email gave me lot of strength.I will keep posted.
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n4nature
02-05 12:41 PM
You need to check with your HR and Attorney for the legal requirements. Make sure you are not breaking any law.
snathan,
I checked with my attorney and according to him, I have to go with MS+4. A friend of mine got the labor approved with MS+0 and he was MS+5 already. Hence I thought someone here might know better.
Thanks!
snathan,
I checked with my attorney and according to him, I have to go with MS+4. A friend of mine got the labor approved with MS+0 and he was MS+5 already. Hence I thought someone here might know better.
Thanks!
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Nagireddi
05-21 07:35 PM
It should be printed on both sides of the same page I have just sponsored my parents, inlaws and uncle and aunt(Total 6 people at the same time). All of them got 10 yrs visa.Though I have provided all documents, they did not bother to look in to those papers. They have been asked simple questions and given their visa.
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saji007
05-03 09:45 AM
1. No need to apply extn with the new employer, when you file for H1-Transfer you get 3 year extenstion
2. You need to apply for new PERM through new employer, as you do not have a pending i-485. In my case I have an EB2 Perm with proiority date of Feb 2008. New company filed for PERM in 2011 and is pending. Once they file for I-140, they will port the priority date from the old PERM. Attorney never told me any thing about job description or any issue as you can even port the priority date from EB3. So i think that does not apply. You will need your I-140 and PERM copies from the current employer while doing the transfer and porting the priority dates.
2. You need to apply for new PERM through new employer, as you do not have a pending i-485. In my case I have an EB2 Perm with proiority date of Feb 2008. New company filed for PERM in 2011 and is pending. Once they file for I-140, they will port the priority date from the old PERM. Attorney never told me any thing about job description or any issue as you can even port the priority date from EB3. So i think that does not apply. You will need your I-140 and PERM copies from the current employer while doing the transfer and porting the priority dates.
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iamakshay
05-28 03:06 PM
Hi,
I have applied for Canadian PR (AINP) and would like to know after getting canadian PR,will it possible for H4 and H1 person to work for Canada based company by staying in US or not?
I think I am not impacting US labor or anything. I will be working for Canadian company from US. I will be getting Salary / Tax deduction in Canada.
Thanks,
Akshay
I have applied for Canadian PR (AINP) and would like to know after getting canadian PR,will it possible for H4 and H1 person to work for Canada based company by staying in US or not?
I think I am not impacting US labor or anything. I will be working for Canadian company from US. I will be getting Salary / Tax deduction in Canada.
Thanks,
Akshay
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spicy_guy
03-29 08:52 AM
What if I only complain about recent unpaid period when I was in even in project. They dint pay any thing on March 15th and dont want to pay on March 31st. They only want to pay in April. Whats your suggestion?
Thx
Regardless of the period, you need to complain to DOL. DOL takes action against them. Again, it doesn't matter if you are on project or not. They must pay you all the time.
Thx
Regardless of the period, you need to complain to DOL. DOL takes action against them. Again, it doesn't matter if you are on project or not. They must pay you all the time.
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amitjoey
03-17 12:26 PM
Ask your lawyer. I agree, be proactive and if there is a way you can send the results and file it with your case, do it. Any case medicals are valid for 12-18 months, so if an RFE comes, You can send them same ones again. Again, not sure if you can do this, ask your lawyer.
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ns007
02-13 02:39 PM
One of my friends got his passport back in 6th week.
I would say, be persistent in contacting them. They are not very good at getting back to people - no accountability. Send emails and fax explaining your situation ....twice a day until they reply back.
Hello Friends,
My current passport is expiring in Jun 07. I have applied for passport renewal at Indian Embassy (Washington D.C.) in 3rd week of Jan 07 via courier. I may have to travel urgently to India by end of this month. Just wondering if anyone recently got their passport renewed at DC and what was the duration. It will help me to take the decision about departure date. Unfortunately DC is 5 hours drive from where I live. I am not sure even if take a day off and drive to DC to collect the passport they will even give it to me on the same day. Multiple attempts to contact DC office via phone/email were not helpful. No one picks the phone and their voice mail system is always full. Any advise on what I should to do know status of my passport renewal would be appreciated.
Thank you,
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I would say, be persistent in contacting them. They are not very good at getting back to people - no accountability. Send emails and fax explaining your situation ....twice a day until they reply back.
Hello Friends,
My current passport is expiring in Jun 07. I have applied for passport renewal at Indian Embassy (Washington D.C.) in 3rd week of Jan 07 via courier. I may have to travel urgently to India by end of this month. Just wondering if anyone recently got their passport renewed at DC and what was the duration. It will help me to take the decision about departure date. Unfortunately DC is 5 hours drive from where I live. I am not sure even if take a day off and drive to DC to collect the passport they will even give it to me on the same day. Multiple attempts to contact DC office via phone/email were not helpful. No one picks the phone and their voice mail system is always full. Any advise on what I should to do know status of my passport renewal would be appreciated.
Thank you,
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raysaikat
04-29 04:13 PM
It against the law to work in one country and get paid in another
Where did you get this info? Could you please point out a reference that says so?
Where did you get this info? Could you please point out a reference that says so?
cooler
07-07 01:43 PM
Bump.
I am in the same situation. Any insight from the original owner or others would be appreciated
I am in the same situation. Any insight from the original owner or others would be appreciated