lazycis
05-01 09:24 PM
Actually...with India growing up fast....i do not know if I am wasting time here.....want to go back .....
If there is no growth in India...then it makes sense to stay here....
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html
GDP - per capita: India $2,700, US - $46,000
GDP total: $1.09 trillion v. $13.79 trillion
Inflation rate: 5.9% v. 2.7%
growth rate: 8.5% v. 2.2%
It may make sense for you, I am not completely aware of the situation in India. I agree that the situation with GC is bad for EB3 India, but I think there are plenty of opportunities here as well. Just do not base your decision on emotions, keep your cool...
If there is no growth in India...then it makes sense to stay here....
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html
GDP - per capita: India $2,700, US - $46,000
GDP total: $1.09 trillion v. $13.79 trillion
Inflation rate: 5.9% v. 2.7%
growth rate: 8.5% v. 2.2%
It may make sense for you, I am not completely aware of the situation in India. I agree that the situation with GC is bad for EB3 India, but I think there are plenty of opportunities here as well. Just do not base your decision on emotions, keep your cool...
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msp1976
02-23 12:32 PM
This is a rough draft..I would revise again...I need to think a title too
It is that time of the year again. Immigartion reform is in the air. Recently there were raids on many businesses and arrests ensued.The Bush administration is showing its zeal to pursue the 'illegal immigrants', 'Undocumented workers'.The pro-immigration and anti-immigrantion organizations are racheting up their activities. You would hear a common refrain from the anti-immigration ideologues like 'If they want to come to this country, let them come legally'. So let's see what the people trying to immigrate legally face.
A major category of the people who immigrate to America come through a channel known as 'Employment Based' immigrants. They constituted almost 16% of the total immigrants to United States in year 2005. The immigration
process consists of three steps
1. Labor Certification - The US Department of labor administers this program. This process takes anywhere from 3 to 5 years. There are people in this queue who had applied for certfication in 2001. Now imagine waiting that long for the first step.
2. Immigrant Visa application - The US Department of State allocates a visa number to the individual.
3. Adjustment of Status - The US Citizenship and formally grants permanat resident status
The whole process can take 3 to 10 years..There are people waiting to be sure of their status for even more than that. No wonder people are coming over the border rather than waiting in this hell. Some of these people have come together to find the organization http://immigrationvoice.org/. The goals include reduced waiting time for green card applications,increased numbers for employment based green cards, ability to get certain benefits if the wait time exceeds 5 years.
It is that time of the year again. Immigartion reform is in the air. Recently there were raids on many businesses and arrests ensued.The Bush administration is showing its zeal to pursue the 'illegal immigrants', 'Undocumented workers'.The pro-immigration and anti-immigrantion organizations are racheting up their activities. You would hear a common refrain from the anti-immigration ideologues like 'If they want to come to this country, let them come legally'. So let's see what the people trying to immigrate legally face.
A major category of the people who immigrate to America come through a channel known as 'Employment Based' immigrants. They constituted almost 16% of the total immigrants to United States in year 2005. The immigration
process consists of three steps
1. Labor Certification - The US Department of labor administers this program. This process takes anywhere from 3 to 5 years. There are people in this queue who had applied for certfication in 2001. Now imagine waiting that long for the first step.
2. Immigrant Visa application - The US Department of State allocates a visa number to the individual.
3. Adjustment of Status - The US Citizenship and formally grants permanat resident status
The whole process can take 3 to 10 years..There are people waiting to be sure of their status for even more than that. No wonder people are coming over the border rather than waiting in this hell. Some of these people have come together to find the organization http://immigrationvoice.org/. The goals include reduced waiting time for green card applications,increased numbers for employment based green cards, ability to get certain benefits if the wait time exceeds 5 years.
immigrationmatters30
09-23 12:46 PM
Yes it is at 1PM EST. Do you guys know if they are done with the horse bill? If they are done then it should just say 5882 and nurse bill. But schedule shows that they wil continue to work on horse bill as well...
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
The calendar says 1:00 PM EST.
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html
The calendar says 1:00 PM EST.
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arunmohan
05-24 11:37 PM
Hello,
I would like to request core members to please prepare one web fax for H4 people who are stuck in green card logjam.this issue should also be put in limelight now.I request all other members to help draft a letter for the same.
I would like to request core members to please prepare one web fax for H4 people who are stuck in green card logjam.this issue should also be put in limelight now.I request all other members to help draft a letter for the same.
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mpadapa
10-13 11:21 AM
It was a great meeting. I was blown over by the enthusiasm of the folks. It was intended to be a casual get together, but beyond a point it became more serious:D We did have action items and we will communicate it through emails, we cannot post such things on public forum. We are working on the next event planning once we finalize the place and time we will get in touch with U.
Yeah there were few glitches we can rectify it in future.
laborchic, thanks for taking the lead and organizing this event. U'r IV handle certainly helped to pull some additional members to the meet:D:D
The party was mostly good. I only regret that sometimes, I could not hear what people on the other side of the table were talking about. The room was too dark and not quiet enough. It might have been better if we had a round table.
The most important thing is that we need to come up with an action plan after the meeting. We were not just having fun. We had some serious discussions on various issues.
Yeah there were few glitches we can rectify it in future.
laborchic, thanks for taking the lead and organizing this event. U'r IV handle certainly helped to pull some additional members to the meet:D:D
The party was mostly good. I only regret that sometimes, I could not hear what people on the other side of the table were talking about. The room was too dark and not quiet enough. It might have been better if we had a round table.
The most important thing is that we need to come up with an action plan after the meeting. We were not just having fun. We had some serious discussions on various issues.
sunny1000
10-05 12:02 PM
I agree, I was so upset when I read it... Thank you Logiclife for bringing that to our notice.
I just wrote an email to the editors with the email address provided by walking_dude. My email says this:
Dear Editor
You mention in an article dated today that "HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers". And in the same breath you say that "In a poll 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship." Do you know the difference between highly skilled legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?. Why do you have to imply that all highly skilled are illegal, infact 99.99% of highly skilled workers (Tech workers) came to the USA legally and continue to live legally. They are here at the behest of their employers.
So please correct your article to reflect that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
An Upset highly skilled worker
I don't think they mean to say that High tech workers are illegal. They say that their poll indicates Republican voters who earn more than $75000 would like a candidate who opposes illegal immigration. Atleast, that is the way I read it.
They have to say they oppose illegal immigration because it is the WSJ. Republicans read it and they like bashing the illegals and it increases circulation.
I just wrote an email to the editors with the email address provided by walking_dude. My email says this:
Dear Editor
You mention in an article dated today that "HIGH-TECH EMPLOYERS get lift from House Republican letter to Speaker Pelosi urging passage of immigration bill to help "attract and retain" high-skilled workers". And in the same breath you say that "In a poll 56% of Republicans earning more than $75,000 annually would "strongly" or "partially" agree with candidate who would bar illegal immigrants from path to citizenship." Do you know the difference between highly skilled legal immigrants and illegal immigrants?. Why do you have to imply that all highly skilled are illegal, infact 99.99% of highly skilled workers (Tech workers) came to the USA legally and continue to live legally. They are here at the behest of their employers.
So please correct your article to reflect that.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119154966904949270.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
An Upset highly skilled worker
I don't think they mean to say that High tech workers are illegal. They say that their poll indicates Republican voters who earn more than $75000 would like a candidate who opposes illegal immigration. Atleast, that is the way I read it.
They have to say they oppose illegal immigration because it is the WSJ. Republicans read it and they like bashing the illegals and it increases circulation.
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agiridhar
04-28 10:50 PM
Point based system!!!! Is this is joke???? Tell me this is not true and this is just a bad dream, please!!!!
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
guess they are talking about the point system for the people who are here in US and not for the people from other countries to come here.
feel free to confute or comment
Let�s see what a point based system has done to people..... Whom do we have here, a doctor, an engineer and one MBA. OK!!! Lets see what Point based system did to these guys -
Doctor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6h-Ut-ZaE
Engineer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCkmtQ4um9w
MBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP9cQelrmc0
No offense to anybody from Canada. I am simply trying to illustrate the rationale about the GREATEST IDEA OF THE CENTURY, THE SILVER BULLET, THE FINAL FRONTIER TO ALL IMMIGRATION PROBLEMS - "point based system"!!!!! Oh really???
guess they are talking about the point system for the people who are here in US and not for the people from other countries to come here.
feel free to confute or comment
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vaishalikumar
09-22 04:48 PM
Stoppers idea is brilliant and should be done on a big scale. It will convey a strong message and will be in news.
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sayantan76
04-07 09:32 AM
If I could hire IV by paying some money and then forget about it, i would do that. However, as far as I know, IV core is composed of regular folks who are also on visas and therefore can only work during their spare time/vaccation time. I know every one of us is impatient with this EB process, but the reality is our movment is not big/strong enough. Most of us once we get hold of the Green card (is it really green color??) completely forget that we were once part of an everlasting que with so many desperate people.
This is the main difference between EB community and the ilegals. Ilegals are united by a lot of factors and even their legal relatives dont think twice before struggling/fighting for them. How many of our dear Indian/chinese friends (who are citizens of this nation) will stand up for us??? Even though many came here and strugled to obtain the EB green card, now we are alien to them!!!
Consider the ilegal people:-
theoratically, they are not supposed to have any voice in this nation simply because they are ilegals and hiding from the law. How come then that they are able to have such a huge protest march?? because most of the people who protested for them and stand up for them are legals
We will be 100 times more successful if the major indian associations/chinese associations or other country associations raise the voice for us. They should "BECOME HUMAN BEINGS ONCE AGAIN" and feel for us. We should remind them once again of the strange and long path many of them went through to get the GC.
HOW COME THEY IGNORE US???? IF THEY IGNORE US, WHO WILL CONSIDER US???
IV??? my friends IV core member is a person of leadership quality for sure, but he/she is just in the same unstable boat as me and you.
WE DESPERATELY NEED FOLKS IN THE MAIN LAND TO REACH OUT TO US.
you have answered your own question.......the way the demographics are today - there are many families which are part legal and part illegal in terms of their immigration status - the motivation there is to bring close relatives (and even immediate family members) over to the legal side.......
in case of EB - typically (barring some technical exceptions) the immediate family gets the GC at the same time - so the immediate family situation is not critical. If these people want to bring in their families - then thats FB immigration and not EB.
Besides, FB immigration and to a large extent "illegal to legal" (whenever that happens) is a template driven process (if you meeting certain basic guidelines and do not have any criminal background etc - you are in - it is not upto the discretion of an immigration officer to reject a citizen's wife or father or mother on a case by case basis) - whereas EB is a fairly case by case evaluation process........hence its simpler to coin a message that resonates with the vast majority of the interested population on the non-EB side vs on the EB side (whats good for Indians may not be good for RoW and whats good for EB2 may not be good for EB3, direct employees vs consultants, 3 year degrees vs 4 year degrees, foreign degrees vs US degreess, STEM vs non STEM etc)........
You tend to think like a group and root for the group when you suffer as a group........as much as many people on this forum would like to highlight otherwise - i think every EB story is different, every situation is different, even the extent of suffering and inconvenience is different and hence there is no "group feeling" - we are not a "herd" and hence do not act like an "herd".......
To be brutally honest, I have had my GC for two years now, have not really had to wait for a long time either nor is the IV agenda really relevant for me (IV does not really focus on EB1) - i continue to visit the site to keep myself updated because I am concerned (as a well wisher not as an activist) and would like my friends to get their GCs asap! But, among the 100 other "human being like activies" that keep me busy (keeping my job, paying my bills, cleaning the house on weekends, not gaining any more weight with middle age approaching etc.) - do i have time to actually do something (beyond the faxes etc that we sometimes send to senators) - NOT REALLY.
If you poll most people with GCs and new Citizens who came through the EB route - i have a feeling that a large number would give the above answer in their truthful moments.
This is the main difference between EB community and the ilegals. Ilegals are united by a lot of factors and even their legal relatives dont think twice before struggling/fighting for them. How many of our dear Indian/chinese friends (who are citizens of this nation) will stand up for us??? Even though many came here and strugled to obtain the EB green card, now we are alien to them!!!
Consider the ilegal people:-
theoratically, they are not supposed to have any voice in this nation simply because they are ilegals and hiding from the law. How come then that they are able to have such a huge protest march?? because most of the people who protested for them and stand up for them are legals
We will be 100 times more successful if the major indian associations/chinese associations or other country associations raise the voice for us. They should "BECOME HUMAN BEINGS ONCE AGAIN" and feel for us. We should remind them once again of the strange and long path many of them went through to get the GC.
HOW COME THEY IGNORE US???? IF THEY IGNORE US, WHO WILL CONSIDER US???
IV??? my friends IV core member is a person of leadership quality for sure, but he/she is just in the same unstable boat as me and you.
WE DESPERATELY NEED FOLKS IN THE MAIN LAND TO REACH OUT TO US.
you have answered your own question.......the way the demographics are today - there are many families which are part legal and part illegal in terms of their immigration status - the motivation there is to bring close relatives (and even immediate family members) over to the legal side.......
in case of EB - typically (barring some technical exceptions) the immediate family gets the GC at the same time - so the immediate family situation is not critical. If these people want to bring in their families - then thats FB immigration and not EB.
Besides, FB immigration and to a large extent "illegal to legal" (whenever that happens) is a template driven process (if you meeting certain basic guidelines and do not have any criminal background etc - you are in - it is not upto the discretion of an immigration officer to reject a citizen's wife or father or mother on a case by case basis) - whereas EB is a fairly case by case evaluation process........hence its simpler to coin a message that resonates with the vast majority of the interested population on the non-EB side vs on the EB side (whats good for Indians may not be good for RoW and whats good for EB2 may not be good for EB3, direct employees vs consultants, 3 year degrees vs 4 year degrees, foreign degrees vs US degreess, STEM vs non STEM etc)........
You tend to think like a group and root for the group when you suffer as a group........as much as many people on this forum would like to highlight otherwise - i think every EB story is different, every situation is different, even the extent of suffering and inconvenience is different and hence there is no "group feeling" - we are not a "herd" and hence do not act like an "herd".......
To be brutally honest, I have had my GC for two years now, have not really had to wait for a long time either nor is the IV agenda really relevant for me (IV does not really focus on EB1) - i continue to visit the site to keep myself updated because I am concerned (as a well wisher not as an activist) and would like my friends to get their GCs asap! But, among the 100 other "human being like activies" that keep me busy (keeping my job, paying my bills, cleaning the house on weekends, not gaining any more weight with middle age approaching etc.) - do i have time to actually do something (beyond the faxes etc that we sometimes send to senators) - NOT REALLY.
If you poll most people with GCs and new Citizens who came through the EB route - i have a feeling that a large number would give the above answer in their truthful moments.
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kaisersose
05-13 10:28 AM
I and many folks in this forum have seen very few approvals for this category. How come USCIS says that this category is over subscribing the visa quota. Why they are moving un used visas to EB2 (no offense) why not for EB3?
We need IV help in this area.
I fail to see what is unjust about this. They move unused numbers from EB1 to EB2 because it works this way.
EB1 -> first level of preference
EB2 -> second level of preference
EB3 -> third level of preference
Now are you saying they should skip level 2 and drop some unused numbers from 1 to 3 directly? Why? That would actually be unjust.
To be fair, the US immigration system cannot be blamed because a lot of us desis have entered the queue.
We need IV help in this area.
I fail to see what is unjust about this. They move unused numbers from EB1 to EB2 because it works this way.
EB1 -> first level of preference
EB2 -> second level of preference
EB3 -> third level of preference
Now are you saying they should skip level 2 and drop some unused numbers from 1 to 3 directly? Why? That would actually be unjust.
To be fair, the US immigration system cannot be blamed because a lot of us desis have entered the queue.
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texanguy
01-14 02:08 PM
can you define the letters please?
Here are a few equations... :) :)
VB = W + A + H + O <--- 2008 Dem vote bank
VB1 = (W - ΔW1) + (A) + (H + ΔH1) + (O) <-- pro-illegal policies
So Δ(vb1-vb) = ΔH1 - ΔW1 (it may give them some additional votes.)
VB2 = (W - ΔW2) + (A) + (H - ΔH2) + (O) <-- pro-legal policies
and Δ(vb2-vb) = - ΔH2 - ΔW2 (significant loss of white and Hispanic votes )
Based on this - Dems can't afford to be seen as Pro-legal.
Here are a few equations... :) :)
VB = W + A + H + O <--- 2008 Dem vote bank
VB1 = (W - ΔW1) + (A) + (H + ΔH1) + (O) <-- pro-illegal policies
So Δ(vb1-vb) = ΔH1 - ΔW1 (it may give them some additional votes.)
VB2 = (W - ΔW2) + (A) + (H - ΔH2) + (O) <-- pro-legal policies
and Δ(vb2-vb) = - ΔH2 - ΔW2 (significant loss of white and Hispanic votes )
Based on this - Dems can't afford to be seen as Pro-legal.
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geniousatwork
08-26 07:56 PM
I got red for my post :mad: ...I dint say anything anti or wrong...only did some number crunching from the poll stats.
Looks like people dont want to hear the truth...I myself was disappointed to see such high number of people left...but I have to accept this.
Looks like people dont want to hear the truth...I myself was disappointed to see such high number of people left...but I have to accept this.
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PavanV
08-18 05:10 PM
This my personal take on it, I want a GC, i have been in this country for the past 8 years, landed in 2001 finished my masters and have been employed since then. Life is good here, well thats what i think, sometimes better than home (i still call, because i was born there), i am not dissatisfied with the money i am making, although i think i get underpaid (i work in southern calif as permanent employee).
I came to this country so that i can survive in life, i.e. too much competition in India which means you need to really work hard to keep up with the competition (i am really lazy :D) , now with the fight for GC and all, added with the daily stress and chores, i am really thinking is the effort worth the reward, i keep getting this thoughts, i mean i am the only one with the thought that the effort/patience/sacrifice is not equal to the result ?.
I really wonder if all this is worth it, the stress is just too much. Reading other's stories makes me laud their patience, i know my struggle has just started, kudos to others who are still holding on :)
I came to this country so that i can survive in life, i.e. too much competition in India which means you need to really work hard to keep up with the competition (i am really lazy :D) , now with the fight for GC and all, added with the daily stress and chores, i am really thinking is the effort worth the reward, i keep getting this thoughts, i mean i am the only one with the thought that the effort/patience/sacrifice is not equal to the result ?.
I really wonder if all this is worth it, the stress is just too much. Reading other's stories makes me laud their patience, i know my struggle has just started, kudos to others who are still holding on :)
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rameshvaid
09-22 01:50 PM
Pls. post the date if u have one..
RV
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pmpforgc
02-19 02:33 PM
Hi
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
It looks like most people are of the opinion going for term life and investing extra money in Mutual fund or Securities rather than going for Whole life and paying for lot high premiums.
So now my question is
(1) can you list companies and term life policies that you found better and more comptitative compared to others in market, along with their plus and minus
(2) List important websites for such comapnies
(3) Does Having GC and not having GC makes significant difference in terms of Premium for the Term Life Policy
Also list other informative sources for Term or Life Insurance Policies
Thanks
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yabadaba
10-10 03:43 PM
it might seem like eb2 has moved.. and it has from last month...but this is where we were at in april 2006 (may2006 bulletin -1st jan 2003) before the dates stagnated for a cupl of months, became unavailable and finally moved backwards in october.
so basically no movement for 7 months.
so basically no movement for 7 months.
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chanduv23
10-02 02:42 PM
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admin
01-30 02:48 PM
ram_ram,
We're trying to get in touch with such organizations but we need all the help that we can get. We would love if supporters like you can take up such jobs. You can use our Marketing brochure available at this URL
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=36
We're trying to get in touch with such organizations but we need all the help that we can get. We would love if supporters like you can take up such jobs. You can use our Marketing brochure available at this URL
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=47&Itemid=36
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kavita
07-02 12:52 PM
Are you willing to put your name in a lawsuit, travel personally spending your own money to the courts, stay up late and do the research with the lawyer and above all spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on expenses of a lawsuit?
When people cannot contribute $25 how can you expect them to contribute 100K+. Even the FOIA campaign 10K amount took about a month to meet. So no point discussing something people cannot do. Let us just focus on writing forum posts. This is the easiest work we can do and it does not cost us money.
Got it.... I quit. Not because I can't put my name on a lawsuit or that I cannot go to court, but because I cannot do this without the support of large no. of other EB immigrant sufferers.
On the positive side, I will at least resume donations to IV today. Quit few months back (before the label "donor" was assigned) after having contributed what I felt was enough for no use.
When people cannot contribute $25 how can you expect them to contribute 100K+. Even the FOIA campaign 10K amount took about a month to meet. So no point discussing something people cannot do. Let us just focus on writing forum posts. This is the easiest work we can do and it does not cost us money.
Got it.... I quit. Not because I can't put my name on a lawsuit or that I cannot go to court, but because I cannot do this without the support of large no. of other EB immigrant sufferers.
On the positive side, I will at least resume donations to IV today. Quit few months back (before the label "donor" was assigned) after having contributed what I felt was enough for no use.
gjoe
09-24 09:03 AM
Read this interesting article in MSNBC
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26860570
Sad but funny too:)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26860570
Sad but funny too:)
kamakya
10-03 12:32 AM
I applied for PIO card for my son and daughter and both was rejected as both me and my wife are Indian citizens. I was under the impression that kids who hold PIO card need not have to pay NRI fees during college. Is this something true?
